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Permalink Reply by mr.moody on November 5, 2011 at 6:01am

I think reverend Al was basically using the term 'proper negro', he's basically just taking a jab at those that he considers to 'holier than thou'.
Obviously, life wise, there's nothing wrong with being a 'proper negro' but i think that he knew phrasing it like That would make his point.
As for Tyler Perry, the dude can't win for losing! Lol!
When a black person gets successful, the whole damn black community expects them to save the hood, while we remain seated on our asses.
I hear so much about the kind of films Perry should make,by people people who have no intention on doing anything for their communities or people!
That crab in a barrel mentality is so deeply imbedded in most black folks, we can't even see when we are being envious of another's success.
If Tyler perry made exactly the kind of movies that these nuckas claim they would like to see him make, muhfuckas would STILL find something to complain about! Lol
Plus, y'all know better than me that black folk love bragging about how we bootlegged some shit!

I'm not a perry film fan, but I respect what the BROTHA has accomplished. Until we at least make an EFFORT to blaze the trails that has, we just look like a pack of whining ol' coons angry that one of us done made it(slave voice)
There's nothing wrong with critiquing mr.perry or just flat out not liking his films, but for all of those who label him as a sellout or the worst thing to happen to black films?

GET YOUR CAMERA AND CREW AND PLEASE SHOW US ALL HOW IT'S DONE! please!
You have all the answers! Please make a deep thought low budget indie documentary that gives us insight to your cutting edge views and genius!

Please start your own black filmmakers website where only brilliant, non-cooning, powerful black directorial minds can join together and give the next epic uplifting, well put together black cinematic masterpiece!

Ok. If that's too much, how about just write a weekly blog talking about how to get into the indie film game, what equipment is the standard, databases of young black actors, screenwriters, and available camera men and staff for hire?

Oh. I forgot. For 98% of us, that would actually take WORK ETHIC! lol!
That would actually require us to stop talking the talk and start walking the walk.
That would mean we have to get from in front of our computers wasting time complaining about perry, and actually actually start writing a script.

Naaaaahhhhh. For most of our people, methinks it's easier to talk that shit from the the safety of distance. It's not like we want people to think we're just a bunch of crabs. Right?

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Permalink Reply by mr.moody on November 5, 2011 at 6:11am

One more thing.
I always hear about how Tyler perry should do his work more like spike lee! Lol!
Spike lee is a well deserved legend, no doubt!
To prove my point about crabs in a barrel tho, WHERE ARE ALL OF YOU IDEALISTIC PURIST WHEN SPIKE LEE CAN'T EVEN RAISE A BUDGET TO DO A FUCKIN DOCUMENTARY!
Where y'all at?

Just asking.

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Permalink Reply by Marik2011 on November 5, 2011 at 1:24pm

Good valid points Mr. Moody, Is nothing wrong with us being intelligent and articulate a.k.a "proper". Our ancestors were once "whipped" or hanged for trying to learn to read and treated as subhuman and given substandard books and resources in order to keep up the illusion of inferiority. Most of our ancestors were thrown off of slave ships like a piece of trash by people with the same type of achievement limiting mentally as many of the racist infiltrators whom gloat over getting the satisfaction to present stereotypes as "the way things are".

My question is, why are the "Tyler Perry-style" characters being encouraged as the ideal...and individualism discouraged as wrong? 

How the word game making "proper" improper only when it's applied to us blacks and discouraging independent thought? 

I remembered a statement that Dave Chapelle made while he was doing stand-up comedy while back before he left his show, Why us black actors have get starting roles as dressing in drags? Most of us brothers don't agree with the idea of a man dressing in drags and insisted if isn't an outright strange obsession with trying to make this a "norm".

Why punishing a brother for disagreeing with the racist "social" castration and mockery that continues in Hollywood where us black men ending up wearing a dress on television or movies in order to be finally "accepted"?

Also, It is sad that us blacks struggle with issues with relationships and stereotypes within their own race. That sad part is that we perpetuate so many of the stereotypes about our race. Us blacks for years have struggle to find their own identity within the our own race and that has been going on since slavery...Other races dont have the cultural and race identity problems that us blacks have. T.D. Jakes gave a good analysis of this when he stated that when Africans were brought, sold, or stolen into slavery, many of them came from different tribes and been force to understand each other and get along. Each tribe had their own identity and culture. I think what I am trying to say is, like TD Jakes, he realized that African is full of Africans but not all Africans are alike. Other races don't have that issues because they don't struggle with race identity. However, in the United States, we do.

For years we have been called many things from niggers, to coloreds, to negro, to Blacks, Afro-Americans, to African Americans, etc...We have been fighting so long to unify our race under one name, now that times have changed, people are telling us that is it okay to be diverse within our own race when we really never had any unity...It is confusing and sad...So I am not shocked that there is decension within our race. When I went to college and finished 5 years ago, I was told that I was acting too proper. I was kinda offended by it but I didn't let it get to me.

Finally, Until this idenity issue is resolved..it stalls the progress of black equality in our country...and other races not aware of this internal issue will be just be confused why blacks have class warfare amongst their own community..on a wider scale though..it's part of the human condition to be envious of someone that is well off while others struggle on a day-to-day basis...then again in a predominantly white society..Caucasians will always be more comfortable with an upper scale educated black person than they will with a black person stuck in the ghetto through no fault of thier own.

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Permalink Reply by mr.moody on November 5, 2011 at 2:52pm

Very valid points, kIng! It really is amazing how black folks, through everything from slavery to government coordinated community dissension, have been programmed to be so word sensitive and put in a box.
Great topic.

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Permalink Reply by Jewess on November 12, 2011 at 8:55pm

Though I've read the soap box speeches I am insure I understand the issue. Do people really listen and follow the thoughts of Sharpton? Is he really the voice of the people? As for Tyler Perry, he sells a product and many buy it. If I want to see comedy or mindless drama I watch him...if I want to learn something or gain a diversity in knowledge I watch history channel or read a book.

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