I have debated about this question for years. I have had many friendships with guys and they have been great and long-lasting without any type of romantic discussion. However, I have had situations where I thought I was having a platonic relationship with a guy only later to find out that he wants to be more than friends or has always had a crush on me. So tell me, is it that women can have 'we are just friends' on the brain while the guy is thinking 'wonder when I can take it to the next level'? I think both parties can be on the same level, but you tell me what you think...

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Hahahahahaha...

This is funny and true--at least in many circumstances. I don't know, I guess I am an optimist. I hope there can be simply platonic friendships with men and women. But then maybe I am the woman who's always seeing the guy as a friend while he's seeing me as an opportunity. Lol...

LaTiN FlOwEr said:
LOL..That was too funny Latin..Damn, I was going to start this discussion a while ago. Sure men and women can be friends. Only if they are not attracted to each other. It makes it easier for both if one is not easy on the eyes-lol..Hey, I’m keeping it 100. Men..can you be friends with a woman like Halle Berry and not have thoughts about getting at her or trying to get at her?

Aish said:
Hahahahahaha...

This is funny and true--at least in many circumstances. I don't know, I guess I am an optimist. I hope there can be simply platonic friendships with men and women. But then maybe I am the woman who's always seeing the guy as a friend while he's seeing me as an opportunity. Lol...

LaTiN FlOwEr said:
In my opinion most people notice each other based on appearance in the 1st place. I think if the people arent physically attractied to each other then they can be platonic friends. I do think that if given the opportunity most guys would sleep with their female friends period! Most Men are just waiting on the opportunity...,,
well AISH..u said that u have had platonic relationships with guys before..so i think u answered ur own question! Of course women and men can be just friends! i have a bundle(and when i say bundle, i mean BUNDLE!) of women friends!..in a diffrent place and time in my life, would i sleep with some of them?..OF COURSE!!..but thats just honesty in thinking. In reality..most of my homegirls are like my sisters..and the thought of banging my sister is straight disgusting!! now..physically..im attracted to a lot of the women i know..and although im just a marginal looking guy..a lot of them are physically attracted to me. we pretty much acknowledge the shit and keep it moving. i think it all depends on how much u value the friendship. if the friendship is more important than sex..i think its easy to be platonic. if its not...well, things may just pop off! honesty's the best policy..fellas,if u feelin a 'friend'..tell her! and dont take it any kind of way if she doesnt feel the same.Respect her feelings and keep it moving..if the fact that she doesnt feel u like that ruins the 'friendship'..u guys probably werent real friends to begin with..ladies..same advice.listen..friendship last way longer than bustin a nut does..so be wise in ur choices!
p.s..have i ever slept with friends? HELL YEAH!! i guess we were mature enough to not let that destroy our relationship(these are the 'friends that i didnt quite view as 'sisters' lol!)..shit, as far as friends go..i slept with one and our relationship escalated and i ended up marrying her punk ass!! still friends to this day!...holla.


Naturel said:
In my opinion most people notice each other based on appearance in the 1st place. I think if the people arent physically attractied to each other then they can be platonic friends. I do think that if given the opportunity most guys would sleep with their female friends period! Most Men are just waiting on the opportunity...,,
Actually this makes me wonder....
I've always heard that the best relationships/marriages start out as friendships. Just goes to show a man does not view us the way that we view them. Men can be friends with us for years and then have their feelings develop, while we will look at them and run at the first sign of feelings because we did not choose them first. Interesting...
As women why do we box men up? Stay in this lane and don't come out unless I say so. The friend zone.
tracy, u are so on on point witha lot of ur observations!!...let me just talk from what ive seen over the years..u women can fuk up a potential relationship with the perfect guy for u!!! alot of women throw a good guy to the side for some of the most ridiculous shit ever! so sometimes, a male friend, who is really the best thing for u..might develope feelings and u run him off because of every reason u can think of..later on, he gets married and makes a woman happy off of her rocker, while u get stuck with that perfect physical specimen u were looking for..and he DOGS U OUT!! i know single guys who earn six figures,look good according to what women say about them, got the nice cars and all that..and the biggest thing they complain about is the new wave woman who can only express her concerns about finances and credit reports and not friendship and a good man...and these aint no broke cats!! they done swore yall off..just tired of the insanity! even on this forum..people allude to men just wanting the draws and such..same ol shit!but thats the kind of guy women attract because thats all they expect!..i got homegirls that say "yeah,my homeboy asked me out and i had to tell him hell naw!!..we just friends!"..when u ask why they wouldnt holla..u know what they say?.."well, he cool and hes a gentlemen and all that, he got a good gig..but he just way to skinny for me,moody!.and u know i like a thick man!"...fukin i-n-s-a-n-i-t-y!!!!

Tracy said:
Actually this makes me wonder....
I've always heard that the best relationships/marriages start out as friendships. Just goes to show a man does not view us the way that we view them. Men can be friends with us for years and then have their feelings develop, while we will look at them and run at the first sign of feelings because we did not choose them first. Interesting...
As women why do we box men up? Stay in this lane and don't come out unless I say so. The friend zone.
I have to agree with Naturel and Moody.
Thanks Shawn and I completly agree with you Moody! It is insanity....you could not have said it any better...
guys have caught up to woman with b.s. like tracy asked "are we puttin men in a box?"..alot of women are..so now, if u a wolf in sheeps clothing..what would u do? u would find a miserable ass, caught up in her own indepedence, thinks that men aint shit kinda woman and do what? BEFRIEND HER!!..its not that u want to be friends..its just that ur patient enough to 'show' her that u are diffrent. After a couple of dates of u never disagreeing with her, co signing her thoughts that men aint shit(by now shes sayin 'why cant more men be like you?"), and not hitting on her..shes ripe for the picking...u blow that back out, she gets attached..you then reveal the true wolf thats been hiding under the sheeps skin!...its just that simple! now shes more bitter! and turning more into a wacko feminist that is now so heavily dependent on her financial status and her worldly accomplishments..that they are the opening statements that she spews to any man she meets! she now has turned herself into a nutcase..she blames it on the man, but like i keep saying..thats all she can attract with her type of attitude. It useta be that us fellas liked a woman with a bit of attitude, a good job and at least basic bed skills..we would tolerate it. Men done wised up..we'drather kick it with the strippers and the hoodrats..at least we know we can hit and not have to deal with they shit! Id rather be doin well and deal with a low paid female with crazy ambition and drive(that means shes going places if u just have her back!!), with a touch of down home "i aint no slave,but imma serve my man" kind of mentality, who looks for reasons to smile and not frown, and can admit that men are not dogs if women are not cats! Give me her over the crazy ass ultra liberated "dont hold doors for me!" chick.She can keep her money, her cars and shove her degree right up her ass because of her attitude! A lot of ur 'friends can really turn out to be ur king if u dont anticipate it. Just chill!..think of it like this ladies..how many sisters have u meant at school, church, the job..that u were just cordial to but then it turned into a real sisterhood kinship?..u werent looking for another sista,but things happen for a reason..same thing with males..if it progresses..it will..if not, at least u got a homie. I feel sorry for good women who cant find happiness(and there are a lot of good women!!..im not on that all women aint shit thing..i'll save that for the others)..they cant find it not because men are dogs..but because men have put them in the same catagorie as the nutcase women. If u a good woman and u single('specially if u fine!!)..brothas instantly think u crazy!..yall can thank ur own gender for that! yall say men are intimidated by ur success..NOT!! we love it! believe me..but you put it in our face more than u put tits and ass in our face..and that gets tired. and stop that bullshit(for all u crazy broads..because u know u hate a man who constanly puts his success in ur face!..double standard at its finest!)..so fellas..if u got a good woman as a friend.rspect that! if she sees a jewel in u, it might pop off but dont press it..do things for her because she deserves it and not to put ur self in good standing. And to the pshyco broad..after u get home, park the beemer and let that high price weave down, take off all of ur gucci and prada, pull out the contacts, wipe off all of that ridiculous make-up and read a good pro-woman book by OPRAH, TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR!..who are u without all the smoke and mirrors? probly just a self loathing, confused, angry ass person who need a man to throw under the bus to cover up ur own shortcomings. Anyway, after u remove all that is fake about u and find out who u are..HOLLA AT ME!!...i know a lot of guys. i might be able to find a 'FRIEND' for you. till then....peace!

Naturel said:
LMAO!!! DAMNNNNN homie. I couldn't have said it in a more perfect way. You know the mens bible for real. I can't add nothing because you done did it with that one. WOW!!! That's it. I wish this could be broadcasted on BET or in the clubs. Damn homie!
Damn..WTF Moody? LOL..I can’t even be mad at that. I’m with you Lac..This does need to be broadcasted-lol..Somebody get TV 1 on the line and put Moody’s ass on Black Men Revealed.

mr.moody said:
guys have caught up to woman with b.s. like tracy asked "are we puttin men in a box?"..alot of women are..so now, if u a wolf in sheeps clothing..what would u do? u would find a miserable ass, caught up in her own indepedence, thinks that men aint shit kinda woman and do what? BEFRIEND HER!!..its not that u want to be friends..its just that ur patient enough to 'show' her that u are diffrent. After a couple of dates of u never disagreeing with her, co signing her thoughts that men aint shit(by now shes sayin 'why cant more men be like you?"), and not hitting on her..shes ripe for the picking...u blow that back out, she gets attached..you then reveal the true wolf thats been hiding under the sheeps skin!...its just that simple! now shes more bitter! and turning more into a wacko feminist that is now so heavily dependent on her financial status and her worldly accomplishments..that they are the opening statements that she spews to any man she meets! she now has turned herself into a nutcase..she blames it on the man, but like i keep saying..thats all she can attract with her type of attitude. It useta be that us fellas liked a woman with a bit of attitude, a good job and at least basic bed skills..we would tolerate it. Men done wised up..we'drather kick it with the strippers and the hoodrats..at least we know we can hit and not have to deal with they shit! Id rather be doin well and deal with a low paid female with crazy ambition and drive(that means shes going places if u just have her back!!), with a touch of down home "i aint no slave,but imma serve my man" kind of mentality, who looks for reasons to smile and not frown, and can admit that men are not dogs if women are not cats! Give me her over the crazy ass ultra liberated "dont hold doors for me!" chick.She can keep her money, her cars and shove her degree right up her ass because of her attitude! A lot of ur 'friends can really turn out to be ur king if u dont anticipate it. Just chill!..think of it like this ladies..how many sisters have u meant at school, church, the job..that u were just cordial to but then it turned into a real sisterhood kinship?..u werent looking for another sista,but things happen for a reason..same thing with males..if it progresses..it will..if not, at least u got a homie. I feel sorry for good women who cant find happiness(and there are a lot of good women!!..im not on that all women aint shit thing..i'll save that for the others)..they cant find it not because men are dogs..but because men have put them in the same catagorie as the nutcase women. If u a good woman and u single('specially if u fine!!)..brothas instantly think u crazy!..yall can thank ur own gender for that! yall say men are intimidated by ur success..NOT!! we love it! believe me..but you put it in our face more than u put tits and ass in our face..and that gets tired. and stop that bullshit(for all u crazy broads..because u know u hate a man who constanly puts his success in ur face!..double standard at its finest!)..so fellas..if u got a good woman as a friend.rspect that! if she sees a jewel in u, it might pop off but dont press it..do things for her because she deserves it and not to put ur self in good standing. And to the pshyco broad..after u get home, park the beemer and let that high price weave down, take off all of ur gucci and prada, pull out the contacts, wipe off all of that ridiculous make-up and read a good pro-woman book by OPRAH, TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR!..who are u without all the smoke and mirrors? probly just a self loathing, confused, angry ass person who need a man to throw under the bus to cover up ur own shortcomings. Anyway, after u remove all that is fake about u and find out who u are..HOLLA AT ME!!...i know a lot of guys. i might be able to find a 'FRIEND' for you. till then....peace!

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